Showing posts with label Facebook. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Facebook. Show all posts

Friday, September 7, 2018

Facebook Groups and Crowdsourcing for DNA

The way some commercials and advertisements talk about genetic genealogy, it's easy to believe all you have to do is spit in a cup and learn the secrets of your family history. Not so! There is A LOT of work that goes into learning anything truly substantial about your family from genetic testing. And along the way, it becomes necessary to ask for help from people who have also put in the work to learn.

One of the places I recommend people to start is with Facebook groups dedicated to genetic genealogy. The people, knowledge, and resources available to you in those spaces is truly without price. Imagine an entire community of people who personally invest themselves in what you want to know about your family, and engage with you to find answers with you. You may be new, but you don't have to be completely lost and alone while trying to make the most of your DNA test.




All you have to do is search for "DNA testing" into the Facebook search box, sort by Groups, and you'll see so many of these groups appear. Why are there so many? What's the difference between them? How do you know which ones to join? And what should you post once you join them?

No Two Groups are Exactly Alike

Each group has different rules about what kinds of posts they accept. Some welcome people to post their GEDmatch kit numbers. Others don't. Some are targeted at new users. Some are targeted at adoptees and the donor conceived. Some allow sharing personal success stories. Others want to focus solely on inquiries and solving specific research problems. Some don't mind if you post relevant or topical stories from the news as it relates to genetic genealogy. Others view those posts to be a distraction from the core purpose they are trying to fulfill. To find the groups that best match your needs and interests, you'll want to familiarize yourself with the conversational culture of the group.

Most admins will try to communicate those rules and the group's purpose in their About section, as well as their group entrance questions, and possibly even a welcome post to all new members. Be sure to familiarize yourself with these before you post in a group. This truly is not something you should skip, and attempt to learn "on the fly" if you truly want people to help you.

Inquiries

When you're writing a message to a cousin match from a testing site, it's very important not to throw too much information at the person all at once. You go into the interaction assuming they may not know anything about genetic genealogy, segment data, or their family tree. You break your research questions into basic, digestible chunks. You try to engage someone in a prolonged conversation, in which you explore many questions over an extended period of time--months, or sometimes even years. At the same time you're trying to solve research problems, you're also trying to build a personal connection with another relative or family member.

Posting in these groups is completely different. You go into these interactions with completely different assumptions and behavior because your audience is different. You're talking to people who DO understand segment data, and who will assume that to you do too (unless you clarify otherwise.) You take into account the volume of inquiries the group has. Your post is one of many that is entering what essentially amounts to an assembly line. The more already-complete pieces you can bring to that line, the more complete your final product will be. And the results you get will vary depending on who is on the line that day.

What the users in these groups need to know to help you is who you're trying to find, what cousin matches you think might be related to your question, the segment data for those matches, and what you've already done to solve your own problem. All these details center around the same one question: "Do your numbers and segment data line up with the relationships you think you share with these people? And if not, why not?" You won't need to include loads of private information or back story. The segment data is its own language for family relationships, and will help people to tell you where to look for the answers you're trying to find.


Questions

Sometimes the questions you need to ask won't always be related to a research problem. Sometimes they'll be conceptual problems, and trying to grasp how DNA works and how to use it. Don't be afraid to ask these questions when you need to. Even if people have taught about something like X DNA a thousand times, and you read all the background material in the world, there's no guarantee that someone would explain it in a way you understand it completely. Sometimes the only way to achieve understanding in your own mind is to ask questions. 

A good example of this for me was when I was seeing my cousin matches line up on my chromosomes in the same places, but the people weren't related to each other in any way I could see. It was a basic question that I knew must have a very simple answer, and I didn't want to ask it for that reason. But I asked it anyway in one of these groups because I knew it was the only way I would learn.

The answer I got from one woman was perfect, and even came with a visual that I still think about to this day. We don't just have one copy of each chromosome. We have two of each: one from our birth mother and one from our birth father. And we can think of these as being overhead projector transparencies sitting on top of each other. The only way to tell them apart is to see who does and doesn't match each other in these positions together, and then determine which matches come from our maternal side, and which from the paternal side.

Had I not asked that question where and when I did, I don't know when or how I would've had the "A-Ha!" moment when everything finally made sense. But it would've been much later on in my journey than if I'd tried to do everything myself.

Thread Etiquette and Tips

Discussions in these groups are organized into "threads." You have two options in how to interact with these threads: to post a new thread, or to respond to someone else's thread. Knowing when to do each one can be really helpful in being the most efficient and respectful group member you can be.

Before you ask any question or make a post, it's helpful to search the back catalog of the group to see if someone else has asked the question before. In Facebook groups, the search box is on the left side of the page. Think about how you might Google the question you're asking, breaking down your question into search terms. Use those in the search box and see what you find. You may find not only the answer to the question you were looking for, but answers to questions you haven't even thought to ask yet!

It may be helpful to tack your question onto a previous thread, if the issue or question you're trying to explore isn't substantially different from what someone else has already posted about. It can save you and others the work of having to get and reframe the same context that went into that discussion. What you should avoid, however, is posting a completely irrelevant response or question on someone else's thread. It distracts people's attention away from the original poster's question, making it less likely they will get the help they asked for. And for posts that may be very old and involve a lot of respondents, it's helpful to consider how many people will have to sit through a slew of notification and responses in a conversation they not longer want to be a part of.

The temptation to post your same question, word for word, into various other groups isn't the best course of action. I recently saw a woman do this, and someone pointed out that he'd seen her same post for the 4th time that day. It's better to err on the side of assuming that most people will be in more than one group. If you're going to post the same question to multiple groups, consider spacing them out a week or more apart, and posting them at different times of day to get the greatest variety of responses.

What makes Facebook groups great for traditional genealogy and connecting with local communities where our ancestors lived also makes them great for DNA analysis. Who you know or can access in person is no longer a limitation with the social media machine on your side. And with just a little bit of prep work, the returns on that time are sometimes exponential.

A Group List

Here are some Facebook groups you could consider joining for your genetic genealogy journey. Note, there are other regional, national, and ethnicity specific DNA analysis groups that are more specialized than these. Try combining different search terms together with DNA to see what you find!

Thursday, April 3, 2014

Using Facebook Groups for Genealogy

Facebook is something I’ve been trying to use for genealogy for a long time. It has always seemed like it has so much potential. Because a significant portion of the entire human population uses Facebook on a semi-regular basis, it could be one of the greatest untapped genealogy goldmines in existence.

But HOW to go about using it? That’s what I couldn’t decide. After a failed experiment to create a profile for my great great grandmother, I decided to use a more traditional approach. I set up a new profile for myself, and tried to find as many useful features as possible--including Facebook groups.

What groups should I join?

When I was looking for groups, I wanted to find historical societies, and County/Municipality/City genealogy research groups. Use the search bar at the top and use different combinations of search terms. “Pittsylvania County Historical Society,” or “Halifax Genealogy,” keep searching until you find what you’re looking for.

If you think this is the only person
to talk to on Facebook, think again!

Be as specific as you can with the group search. Don’t just search for a Virginia genealogy group, there are at least 4 or 5 of them. I found one for both Pittsylvania County and Grayson County, Virginia. I didn’t see one for Claiborne County, Tennessee so then I opted for a plain Tennessee Group. If you don’t see a group you need, you can try starting one and see how it plays out.

For my Canadian research, I wanted to find a Halifax city research group because that’s how centralized my research is for those generations. But sometimes it may be enough to branch out by country. I haven’t explored any sort of Jamaican or Barbadian research groups yet, but that’s enough of a niche that a basic group may help me get started.

What are the limitations of using Facebook groups for genealogy research?

Facebook Groups are like a step back in time in terms of research. It’s a lot like working on the message boards of yesteryear, throwing out some information and hoping something sticks. However, Facebook is NOT a message board. If you treat it like a message board, you won’t be likely to find very much.

Whereas a message board is public and can be accessed/found through Google searches, Facebook groups are often private and can only be accessed by the people in the group. Facebook groups are also timeline based, which means it functions the same way your personal Facebook timeline does. 

Within 30 days whatever you posted to the group is going to be buried inside the timeline. The only way to access it after that is through lots of clicking and scrolling. And because many groups are private and limited only to those who are members, you may have to repost things a few times in a few different places.


I know this is what you're thinking. Stay with me.
It gets awesome in a minute ;)

Facebook groups are like a genealogy roulette wheel. There are some things you can do to increase your odds, but a lot of it is simply being in the right place at the right time. Because when it pays off, IT REALLY PAYS OFF!

How can I increase my chances of getting a hit on a Facebook group?


Your post needs to be directly worded, and focus on a question. If you have a question about Annie Fenity, limit your inquiry to only that question. Maybe include one or two helpful pieces of information you have in relation to that question. Include a picture if you have one. It helps if the people you’re researching are at the center of something interesting or controversial. Make your inquiry engaging so people want to read it, and then want to help you.


Facebook: It's not just for cat ladies anymore...


If you have another question, make another post. If you didn’t get any responses, maybe ask the Admin or the group itself if they know anyone who is researching the surname you’re trying to find. Generally speaking, most people will only try to answer the question you asked. If one question didn’t work, try a different question, or at a different time of day. The more people who see your post, the more likely you are to find someone who can help you.

Is it worth the trouble?


Absolutely. Yes. 100%. No question.

This week I posted a simple inquiry to a Facebook group. I wanted to know who Annie Rorer’s parents are. I provided a picture of Annie and her husband Pomp Fenity. I briefly told how Annie was raised by her aunt and uncle, how her uncle killed her aunt in 1906, and Annie never knew who her real parents were. Family mystery, we want to know the truth.

Within a few minutes I met a distant cousin of mine, not even related to me through the lines I was asking about. He still lives in Pittsylvania County, Virginia. Not only did he point me in the right direction to some people who knew my great grandfather personally, he has been doing research for me at the county courthouse. He found more information about Annie’s aunt and uncle I didn’t have. He also helped me locate an old family cemetery for another line in my family that has never been mapped. He’s pointing me to court cases and things in the probate I had no idea existed until I talked to him.

My new cousin also put me in touch with a woman who wants to help me with my research. She wants to see what sort of documentation exists to explain why Annie and John were placed with such questionable relatives. She also has been putting genealogies together for families from the county for years now. My information is becoming a part of a county history, which has been my goal from the very beginning.

All because of one Facebook post. It's good enough to become my latest obsession.




Why should we bother exploring what Facebook has to offer your research? Because the connections you could potentially make may prove to be absolutely indispensable. You’ll never know unless you look. And that kind of curiosity is what got most of us into this mess…





…and is in itself the greatest reward.

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